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– [Voiceover] A while back on TFB, we ran a picture of my Model Eight as the picture of the day. I was really astonished at
the amount of people who have never heard of this extremely
revolutionary firearm. So, let’s take a look at it. That safety lever should
be pretty familiar to any Kalashnikov guys, and
it is functionally identical. You can see here, lowering the safety presses it into fire mode, and it’s simply right-side
charging, just like an AK. The port on the top is where
you load the ammunition, and it can accept stripper clips. One endearing feature
about the Model Eight is they’re all actually take-down rifles; what looks like a front sling swivel, is actually a screw that helps
you remove the wooden forend. After you accomplish this, there’s a lever that you
rotate a number of times, which can be a bit of a bear, but it does secure the barrel assembly to the receiver very well. After a little bit of unscrewing, you reach the point where
it stops and it is captive. Lock the bolt to the rear,
and rotate the barrel out. This leaves you with a
very nice, compact package that you can throw in a backpack, duffel bag or what have you. This specific example is
chambered in .30 Remington, and they were chambered
in multiple calibers including .25, .30, .32,
.35, and .300 Savage. You can see that .30 Remington
is about the size of .30-30, because they are almost
dimensionally identical, except for the rim. Loading the Model Eight is quite easy: you click the rounds in through the top; and there is a stripper
clip guide as well, should you have some stripper clips. However, they are quite
rare and expensive, and I’ve seen one sell for $100 on eBay, so I reckon clicking them in
is just fine in lieu of that. After you have your five rounds in, you simply pull the bolt to the rear, and it chambers a round. So let’s start shooting, shall we? All I can say about the
Model Eight’s recoil impulse is it is incredibly heavy. The entire barrel actually
recoils into the action, and there’s absolutely nothing
soft about this firearm. However, place it in historical context. At the time, there really weren’t any commercially available
semi-automatic rifles, so this was revolutionary. You could see here, in slow motion, how the barrel recoils all the way into the receiver to unlock the bolt. And as the barrel comes
forward, the shell ejects. After this, it was time to
take a brief accuracy test. It is worth noting that
these were accurate enough to be part of the guns in the posse that took down Bonnie and Clyde. As a matter of fact, it was a Model Eight chambered in .35 Remington
that took down Clyde Barrow with a shot to the head. These were the tactical
rifles of their day, and it’s easy to understand why. You had five rounds of a
hard-hitting, centerfire firepower, and accuracy that was
very impressive, actually. You can see here I shot a five-shot group at about 40 yards that
measured about an inch. So that about does it for
the great Model Eight. While complicated, they
were an important step toward semi-automatic rifle design. Should you see one for a good price, why not take a look at it? This is Alex C., with TFB TV. Thank you very much for watching.

100 thoughts on “John Moses Browning’s Amazing Remington Model 8 Semi-Auto Rifle

  1. How easy are these rifles to obtain? I'd like to get my hands on a Winchester .351 semi-auto as well as a Model 8.

  2. Why does the US army doesn't want to adopt a weapon model after this design, chambered in 30-06 instead of waiting for the M1 Garand to appear during the 1930s.

  3. For those who have this rifle, IV8888 did a piece on this (and model 81, what I have), and they used stripper clips for a 6.5 Mauser M 96. With taking off two guide bumps, works great. I got 20 for $12.

  4. Browning seems to have had keen eyesight (he liked little tiny sights) and he was no weenie when it came to recoil.

  5. How do I get one of these online? I'm new at the uhh gun game lol idk , this gun looks really cool but I live in new York state and our gun laws are gay af. Point is I'm not entirely sure how to get guns online cus if type in "browning model 8 for sale" I don't get what I want or expect. half expected a site where they have a catalog of guns n stuff. idk help lol

  6. excellent presentation. straight to the point.
    from a historical perspective, "what is old, is new again". Law enforcement using a semi-automatic .30 caliber rifle, what a novel concept. LOL

  7. At the time it was a great achievement to design an auto loader that didn't need to use lubricated ammunition or use a fluted chamber.

  8. I love how Battlefield 1 makes the model 8 the weakest gun in the medic class, but the actual gun hits hard and kicks like a mule.

  9. i inherited one of these rifles from my grandfather when he passed> the date on the barrel is printed "1909". it is in very good working order. if you could, what value would you put on this rifle?

  10. Coolest. Rifles. Ever. You don't have John Browning designing the Remington Autoloading Rifle which became the Model 8 and 81 and you don't have an AK or AR or anything we think of today as a "modern" autoloader.

    A few things on the Remington autoloaders. They're old rifles – beat them up with modern hunting ammo in large volumes and you'll break them. Second they're autoloaders, not "semi-autos" the way we think of them. Start doing mag dumps and you'll break things eventually. Third, they're OLD RIFLES. And they have RECOIL SPRINGS and BUFFER SPRINGS that will WEAR OUT. It's a damn good idea to replace them.

    Last, back to ammo, the two most common cartridges are the most powerful cartridges, which are .35 Remington and .300 Savage. Both cartridges are most commonly found today in lever-action rifles. 336 Marlins and Model 99 Savages primarily. The ammo is going to be on the "hot" side for hunting with those cartridges. If you want to shoot long-term in any volume, it's a wise idea to load your own ammo and back the power down

    .300 Savage in particular is about the limit of what the design will live with long-term. And .300 Savage also is not common and can be harder to find than .35 Remington, so hold onto your brass. If you can 't find .300 Savage, the brass can easily be made from .308 Winchester, since .300 Savage is the "parent case" of .308 Winchester.

    For my Model 8 made in 1914, I load Hornady 200-grain round nose bullets to about 1800 fps. Mine will shoot 3-4" at 100 yards. And yes, they are HAMMERS when it comes to recoil. Which is why its a great idea to back down the power, replace the springs and help your gun live.

  11. I've got one with a pistol grip stock like what you have. it has a round bottom instead of the square bottom

    also, I found I was able to use stripper clips that would be used to load any M1A/M14. The Argentine mauser stripper clip works alright too, just not a smooth

  12. Been wanting one of these in 35 Rem for awhile. I find it ironic that a rimless cartridge designed for early semiautos now survives in lever actions (i want a 336 in 35 also). Another one of JMB's great designs.

  13. 2:25 " THIS WAS REVOLUTIONARY " …. as two hot casings consecutively hit you in the face, one dancing on your hat at 2:42

  14. why did early semi auto rifles use a long recoil system?
    even the chauchat used it.
    why not straight blowback or a gas piston?

  15. When your shooting to save your life, who cares about recoil? In fact that means you rifle is functioning under duress.

  16. You know, I remember thinking to myself when I got my Auto-5

    "Well this was made in 1905! Why didn't they ever make a rifle with this design?"

    I guess I got my answer.

  17. I don't get why everyone thinks the recoil impulse is so heavy. Much lighter than a bolt gun chambered in a comparable caliber.

  18. Huh, never knew about the break down feature, I have gramps old#8 in .35. Last i knew it jammed, any known common issues?

  19. So I gotta tell what just happened- went to try the breakdown feature, sure enough it split in 2- I then found a 100 year old bill of sale in the buttstock

  20. Frank Hamers favorite in 25 Rem & given as gift by Remington .30 Cal however the 25 Rem was used in head shots both Bonnie & Clyde. Well made presentation !

  21. If anyone doesn't know, Huntington's advertises that they have 30 Rem brass. Most sources say you can use 30-30 data for handloading just fine (RL-7 or IMR3031, anyone?). So don't let ammo supply issues deter you from buying a 30 one if you find one.

  22. Do you actually have stripper clips for this gun? I actually ended up buying the one off eBay haha wasn’t quite 100! But pretty close, can you do an in depth take down video? I have the exact same gun in 30 r, little more worn but I picked it up for 250$

  23. Outstanding video…yeah I had never heard of it either until the Highwaymen movie got me interested again in the weapons used…interesting that the upper receiver it looks so much like an AK….I believe the model 8 started production before the AK was there any knowledge by Kalashnikov of the model 8?

  24. The Deputy that was posted up front to identify Clyde and fired with a kill shot to the head, THEN the car rolled forward & with Bonnie the only LIVING person, the posse emptied. Here's the kicker, I heard that Deputy had the 30 30 & Hamer himself had the Model 8.

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